1 Thus they talked and evil counsels prevailed.
2 Tell her a part only, and keep your own counsel about the rest.
3 My dear nurse," said Penelope, "however wise you may be you can hardly fathom the counsels of the gods.
4 There is no chance of my father's ever coming back; the gods have long since counselled his destruction.
5 Meanwhile Eurylochus had been giving evil counsel to the men, 'Listen to me,' said he, 'my poor comrades.'
6 But Neptune did not forget the threats with which he had already threatened Ulysses, so he took counsel with Jove.
7 And I said, 'In truth Jove has hated the house of Atreus from first to last in the matter of their women's counsels.'
8 My father, Nestor, sent me to escort him hither, for he wanted to know whether you could give him any counsel or suggestion.
9 Father," replied Telemachus, "you will come to know me by and by, and when you do you will find that I can keep your counsel.
10 He would put me in prison, and would have all of you murdered; keep your own counsel therefore; buy your merchandise as fast as you can, and send me word when you have done loading.
11 Presently, when he too could put to sea again, and had sailed on as far as the Malean heads, Jove counselled evil against him and made it blow hard till the waves ran mountains high.
12 Here aforetime sat Neleus, peer of gods in counsel, but he was now dead, and had gone to the house of Hades; so Nestor sat in his seat sceptre in hand, as guardian of the public weal.
13 He surrounded the city with a wall, built houses and temples, and divided the lands among his people; but he was dead and gone to the house of Hades, and King Alcinous, whose counsels were inspired of heaven, was now reigning.
14 My house grew apace and I became a great man among the Cretans, but when Jove counselled that terrible expedition, in which so many perished, the people required me and Idomeneus to lead their ships to Troy, and there was no way out of it, for they insisted on our doing so.
15 '"'My friends,' said I, 'this is not the first time that we have been in danger, and we are in nothing like so bad a case as when the Cyclops shut us up in his cave; nevertheless, my courage and wise counsel saved us then, and we shall live to look back on all this as well.'
16 The ship ran before a fresh North wind till we had reached the sea that lies between Crete and Libya; there, however, Jove counselled their destruction, for as soon as we were well out from Crete and could see nothing but sea and sky, he raised a black cloud over our ship and the sea grew dark beneath it.
17 I got fond of him and cherished him, and had set my heart on making him immortal, so that he should never grow old all his days; still I cannot cross Jove, nor bring his counsels to nothing; therefore, if he insists upon it, let the man go beyond the seas again; but I cannot send him anywhere myself for I have neither ships nor men who can take him.
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